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David Chapman

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Amphicar in a swimming pool - 01-16-2006, 05:16 AM

I've just bought an above ground pool - approx 18ft x 12ft x 4ft deep so big enough for Amphicar !

Well it's got to be tried once as it would make great photos but how ? I could of course build the pool around the car and just fill it up but the water supply at my house is not great - just half inch pipe - so pool will take at least a week to fill. I don't think there is any straightforward way to lift the car into the pool so only way I can think of is support the car on blocks - build the pool around it - fill the pool - somehow remove the blocks so the car drops in and floats - then drain water out when photos have been taken.

Anyone think of a better way ?

Also, anyone know what the displacement is of an Amphicar ? I think I only need to fill the pool about threequarters full and then as Amphicar is lowered in the level will rise to the top but to be accurate I need to know how much water in gallons or litres the Amphicar displaces, I did have the formula to work this out but can't find it !

David C

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Tom Jones Posts: n/a	Re: Amphicar in a swimming pool - 01-16-2006, 05:34 AM --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "David Chapman" wrote: > > I've just bought an above ground pool - approx 18ft x 12ft x 4ft deep so big enough for Amphicar ! > > Well it's got to be tried once as it would make great photos but how ? I could of course build the pool around the car and just fill it up but the water supply at my house is not great - just half inch pipe - so pool will take at least a week to fill. I don't think there is any straightforward way to lift the car into the pool so only way I can think of is support the car on blocks - build the pool around it - fill the pool - somehow remove the blocks so the car drops in and floats - then drain water out when photos have been taken. > > Anyone think of a better way ?@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ David, we do that every year in Wisconsin!! We just overfill the pool in the fall & when it freezes we drive in!! Only problem we have is no one knows how to get them out!! Tom n Cindy "blugill ,Finzilla" > >

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WB6WSN

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RE: Amphicar in a swimming pool - 01-16-2006, 05:54 AM

From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chapman
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:17 AM
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Amphicar in a swimming pool

I've just bought an above ground pool - approx 18ft x 12ft x 4ft deep so big enough for Amphicar !

Well it's got to be tried once as it would make great photos but how ? I could of course build the pool around the car and just fill it up but the water supply at my house is not great - just half inch pipe - so pool will take at least a week to fill. I don't think there is any straightforward way to lift the car into the pool so only way I can think of is support the car on blocks - build the pool around it - fill the pool - somehow remove the blocks so the car drops in and floats - then drain water out when photos have been taken.

Anyone think of a better way ?

Also, anyone know what the displacement is of an Amphicar ? I think I only need to fill the pool about threequarters full and then as Amphicar is lowered in the level will rise to the top but to be accurate I need to know how much water in gallons or litres the Amphicar displaces, I did have the formula to work this out but can't find it !

David C

Since an Amphi weighs about 2600 pounds, to float, it needs to displace that water by weight. 2600 pounds (1120 kg)of water is about 394 gallons (1490 liters), or about 50 cubic feet (1.5 cubic meters).

The Amphi will float when the water level matches the waterline (actually, a bit before, as the suspension carries some weight until full extension). But, if you assume the waterline to be the trim strip, then maybe 30" deep. Since your pool is 216 sq ft, then you need about 540 cubic feet, or about 4,000 gallons (15,000 liters). Assuming your hose doesn't have an intentional flow restrictor, it should deliver about 3 gallons per minute. That means you could float your Amphi in about 22 hours.

Ed Price

El Cajon, CA USA

67 Rust Guppy

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Sloat, Gary A Posts: n/a	RE: Amphicar in a swimming pool - 01-16-2006, 07:13 AM You've probably considered a ramp? Up and over the side? Having a pool myself I appreciate the amount of time the dang things take to care for. Great pictures for sure but beware the costs. A pool has become defined to me as a hole in the ground into which one pours money. Your Liner needs to be seriously protected in any case. Good luck and I'll look for those pictures. ________________________________ From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com on behalf of WB6WSN Sent: Mon 1/16/2006 5:54 AM To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [amphicar-lovers] Amphicar in a swimming pool From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chapman Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:17 AM To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Amphicar in a swimming pool I've just bought an above ground pool - approx 18ft x 12ft x 4ft deep so big enough for Amphicar ! Well it's got to be tried once as it would make great photos but how ? I could of course build the pool around the car and just fill it up but the water supply at my house is not great - just half inch pipe - so pool will take at least a week to fill. I don't think there is any straightforward way to lift the car into the pool so only way I can think of is support the car on blocks - build the pool around it - fill the pool - somehow remove the blocks so the car drops in and floats - then drain water out when photos have been taken. Anyone think of a better way ? Also, anyone know what the displacement is of an Amphicar ? I think I only need to fill the pool about threequarters full and then as Amphicar is lowered in the level will rise to the top but to be accurate I need to know how much water in gallons or litres the Amphicar displaces, I did have the formula to work this out but can't find it ! David C Since an Amphi weighs about 2600 pounds, to float, it needs to displace that water by weight. 2600 pounds (1120 kg) of water is about 394 gallons (1490 liters), or about 50 cubic feet (1.5 cubic meters). The Amphi will float when the water level matches the waterline (actually, a bit before, as the suspension carries some weight until full extension). But, if you assume the waterline to be the trim strip, then maybe 30" deep. Since your pool is 216 sq ft, then you need about 540 cubic feet, or about 4,000 gallons (15,000 liters). Assuming your hose doesn't have an intentional flow restrictor, it should deliver about 3 gallons per minute. That means you could float your Amphi in about 22 hours. Ed Price El Cajon, CA USA 67 Rust Guppy THE AMPHICAR-LOVERS LIST ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please support our sponsors while ensuring the very best restoration services for your Amphicar. Please pay a visit to: http://www.midwestamphicar.com The amphicar list is a seperate service from the International Amphicar Owners Club. 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Bernie Soldate Posts: n/a	RE: Re: Amphicar in a swimming pool - 01-16-2006, 11:43 AM This has already been done, I have a photo of a blue Amphi in a 24' round pool at what looks like a fair ground. Somewhere I have the origin of this photo. If any one is interested In a copy, or it's origin, please email me at berniesoldate@pobox.com Bernie Soldate 136 Stratton Brook Road Simsbury, Connecticut 06070-2309 860 651-4220 Fax 860 651-7700 E-Mail berniesoldate@pobox.com berniesoldate@pobox.com> Member The International Amphicar Owners Club 1966 Amphicar Red RubberDucky 1967 Amphicar Red TubToy -----Original Message----- From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:34 AM To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Re: Amphicar in a swimming pool --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "David Chapman" wrote: > > I've just bought an above ground pool - approx 18ft x 12ft x 4ft deep so big enough for Amphicar ! > > Well it's got to be tried once as it would make great photos but how ? I could of course build the pool around the car and just fill it up but the water supply at my house is not great - just half inch pipe - so pool will take at least a week to fill. I don't think there is any straightforward way to lift the car into the pool so only way I can think of is support the car on blocks - build the pool around it - fill the pool - somehow remove the blocks so the car drops in and floats - then drain water out when photos have been taken. > > Anyone think of a better way ?@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ David, we do that every year in Wisconsin!! We just overfill the pool in the fall & when it freezes we drive in!! Only problem we have is no one knows how to get them out!! Tom n Cindy "blugill ,Finzilla" > > THE AMPHICAR-LOVERS LIST ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please support our sponsors while ensuring the very best restoration services for your Amphicar. Please pay a visit to: http://www.midwestamphicar.com The amphicar list is a seperate service from the International Amphicar Owners Club. Do join the club today at http://www.amphicar.com To Unsubscribe from this List, just send a blank email to: amphicar-lovers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Before posting requests for information, please check the List Archives: http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/search.html For more information about this List and other available services visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amphicar-lovers/ Any other issues may be addressed to the List owner (Mike Israel) at: amphicar770@yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links

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David Chapman

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Re: Amphicar in a swimming pool - 01-16-2006, 11:57 AM

To paraphrase the last line of The Italian Job movie "I have a plan....."

I'm going back to the idea of filling the pool slowly with rainwater and then getting the car in. A number of benefits, I can easily divert the house gutter to it and although the water won't be asclean as tap water it will be clean enough and much cheaper (would cost equiv of at least $100 to use the tap).

I've gota flatbed trailer, if I put Amphicar on this and using my wifes 4x4 reverse it onto blocks it would be easy the get the back of the trailer level with the top of the pool. Then use the ramps to get the car into the pool - would have to extend them a bit but should be do-able. Will need to be careful as pool is less than 4ft longer than the Amphicar.

When I've taken the pictures then just let the water drain out and take the pool apart.

David C

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a_colo_native Posts: n/a	Re: Amphicar in a swimming pool - 01-16-2006, 01:09 PM Bernie - That was our own Arnold Hite's car in Texas about 3 years ago I think, for a car show. They set up the pool liner, drove the car onto the liner and filled the pool with the car already in the pool. John --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "Bernie Soldate" wrote: > > This has already been done, I have a photo of a blue Amphi in a > 24' round pool at what looks like a fair ground. > > Somewhere I have the origin of this photo. If any one is interested > In a copy, or it's origin, please email me at berniesoldate@p... > > Bernie Soldate > 136 Stratton Brook Road > Simsbury, Connecticut 06070-2309 > 860 651-4220 Fax 860 651-7700 > E-Mail berniesoldate@p... > Member > The International Amphicar Owners Club > 1966 Amphicar Red RubberDucky > 1967 Amphicar Red TubToy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:34 AM > To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Re: Amphicar in a swimming pool > > --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "David Chapman" > wrote: > > > > I've just bought an above ground pool - approx 18ft x 12ft x 4ft deep > so big enough for Amphicar ! > > > > Well it's got to be tried once as it would make great photos but > how ? I could of course build the pool around the car and just fill it > up but the water supply at my house is not great - just half inch pipe - > so pool will take at least a week to fill. I don't think there is any > straightforward way to lift the car into the pool so only way I can > think of is support the car on blocks - build the pool around it - fill > the pool - somehow remove the blocks so the car drops in and floats - > then drain water out when photos have been taken. > > > > Anyone think of a better way ?@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ David, we do that every > year in Wisconsin!! We just overfill the pool in the fall & when it > freezes we drive in!! Only problem we have is no one knows how to get > them out!! Tom n Cindy "blugill ,Finzilla" > > > > > > > > > > > THE AMPHICAR-LOVERS LIST > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please support our sponsors while ensuring the very best restoration > services for your Amphicar. Please pay a visit to: > http://www.midwestamphicar.com > > The amphicar list is a seperate service from the International Amphicar > Owners Club. Do join the club today at http://www.amphicar.com > > To Unsubscribe from this List, just send a blank email to: > amphicar-lovers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Before posting requests for information, please check the List > Archives: > http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/search.html > For more information about this List and other available services > visit: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amphicar-lovers/ > Any other issues may be addressed to the List owner (Mike Israel) at: > amphicar770@y... > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >

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Bernie Soldate Posts: n/a	RE: Re: Amphicar in a swimming pool - 01-16-2006, 01:19 PM John I do believe you're right Bernie <