chasgould

   

In a message dated 4/13/08 8:11:58 AM, writes:



I completely agree with Vic on this observation. It is extrememly frustraing
not to know the source of the messages.
Chas


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mike_israel

   

Vic,

Messages could list the individual as the sender but this would create two problems.

1) Your email address would be readily available to all the spambots that spider this and other lists. All the messages show up in Google, if your email address is included that would be visible to the world.

As is, you see something like this:
RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-19924] Re: IAOC Newsletter / Roster / InfoSplitPersonality

IF you are a registered list member, and not a Spambot, you can take the extra step of going to the forum and looking up SplitPersonality.

2) Many messages might get trapped by spam filters as each would have a different email address.

3) Several members have all list messages automatically placed in one folder. You would need to know the name of every list member. If you get a message from hotbilge.AT.aol.com with a subject like "My engine is revving too fast" you probably would never even open it even though it might be a legitimate message.

The last point is that people should not be posting messages to all 300 list members that are intended for an individual. The 299 other members do not really need to be seeing a message that states, "Did you receive my check for membership renewal ...?" In those cases the forum itself has a private messaging capability as well as the ability to click on someones name and send them an email.

I'll give some thought to possible work arounds. Unfortunately, everything is ultimately a trade-off.

Thanks,

Mike

EricM

   

I'm not sure what's different about how you guys get your email vs. me. I tend to read them online via my Yahoo email account. I can see the email of the sender on all of them so it hasn't been a problem for me. I don't get the actual names but over the years I know split personality is Victor in Florida. In the message below I know that Chasgould is Charles Gould......there are some that i don't recognize but it hasn't been a big deal.


So maybe its something you can tweak on your side.


Eric
Packing in Chicago

----- Original Message ----
From: chasgould <>
To: e_mattlin@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:45:39 AM
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-19924] Re: IAOC Newsletter / Roster / Info

In a message dated 4/13/08 8:11:58 AM, writes:



Quote:
> One trouble with the new Amphicar group format that bothers me and I expect
> others too is that so many
>
I completely agree with Vic on this observation. It is extrememly frustraing
not to know the source of the messages.
Chas


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Ken Chambers

   

I use the email version and when clicking 'reply' the original message
is quoted which I then delete all but pertinent parts. Don't know if
the web version works the same.

I feel it is very courteous to sign your name to a message. A
location would be nice as well. After all, we're a fairly close-knit
group of folks with a rather unique common interest. It only serves
to get to know each other better.

Whenever I see an anonymous message asking for assistance to an
Amphicar problem I tend to ignore it. I can't get very motivated to
research an answer to their problem if I don't even know who it is I'm
talking to. Chances are pretty good to not receive a thank you reply
either.

All the best,
Ken Chambers, CA
'64 Red


On Apr 13, 2008, at 5:45 AM, chasgould wrote:

EricM

   

'I looked over my setting after posting earlier today. I don't keep
the list email address in my directory which may be why I have the
sender's email visible. If you populate the LIST email into your
local directory whatever you have in that as the "name" will over
ride whatever comes from the actual list.


On Apr 13, 2008, at 9:06 AM, mike_israel wrote:

chasgould

   

In a message dated 4/13/08 10:23:52 AM,
writes:



Hi Eric,
Good luck on your move, which incidentally, does bring you a bit closer to
the East, and therefore possibly more able to attend our Microcar event in July,
or the Amphicar event if we decide to hold another one.
On my messages, all of them are addressed to me as "chasgould@aol.com", but
ALL of the messages simply say that they are from
". I have no clue or idea who the author or sender is on any single message
unless they actually sign their message, as you did. You were so kind, as to
not only sign who you were, but to even advise us all that you were packing, so
I even know what you are doing!
So, if someone were to post that they have a pristine 1967 Amphicar that only
needs a new muffler and a bufing of the paint that they will accept $3,000.00
for, and that the first to respond will own it, I would have no idea who to
contact, except to post a response to the list. Now that Mike has indicated
that I can look up the message sender somewhere, I will have a look at tat, but
from the individual email messages, I don't think that I even get the email
address of the sender.
Chas


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amphi_sc

   

Chas wrote:
>...but ALL of the messages simply say that they are from ".
>I have no clue or idea who the author or sender is on any single >message unless they actually sign their message, as you did...

Just my 2 cents worth...
I get individual messages, and they ALL come to me with the "from field" filed in the form of:
"SplitPersonality <amphicarlovers@amphicar770.com>"
or
"chasgould <amphicarlovers@amphicar770.com>"
... etc.

and my opinion is that is just fine. It makes it just a little difficult to harvest the email address and figure out a real face for the poster, but many times you still recognize who posted that even without a signature in the text. i.e. If I go to the amphicar770 website, use the member tab and look up "chasgould" (from the email address "from field") I see what that person entered for their "real name". If I do the same with "SplitPersonality" I can find out other information but not the real name as that person chooses to remain a little more anonymous. I can guess knowing that Victor likes woodies ( ... that may get filtered by some spam protocols ...) and lives between Daytona and Orlando, etc. If all people had the real name field filled in, then it would be just a simple redirection to figure it out, but then again, some might want to remain more obscure. I think that is a personal choice as to how much information to divulge. It is also just 1 click to view all posts by that person and thus form opinions... For example, tazman doesn't put his real name in the profile, but a simple 1 click finds some posts one can easily see messages where Chuck divulged that information indirectly.

Bottom line, I think it is fine the way it is.

Signed,
unsigned but recognizable <G>

chasgould

   

In a message dated 4/13/08 12:03:41 PM,
writes:



That should have said ALL of the messages seimply state that they are from
"" and if this is missing from this post as well,
then the software is stripping out the address to protect the privacy from
spambots?
Chas


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chasgould

   

In a message dated 4/13/08 1:42:58 PM, writes:



Not to me, you aren't!
This is precisely my point, as in my individual email message, this message
is marked from "", and with your humorous
signature, I have no idea who you are, or who posted this message, nor can I look
it up, as your name, or any part of your email is not visable to me anywhere in
the message, unless I go to the site, which defeats the purpose of receiving
individual email messages.
Chas


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chasgould

   

In a message dated 4/13/08 4:19:05 PM, writes:



Let's try this one more time. All of my messages say that they are coming
from amphicarlovers at amphicar770 dot com. I had to write it this way to keep it
from being striped out of my previous messages. Of course, if Mike is
removing these manually, I am making more work for him.
Chas


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