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Old 04-15-2008, 07:40 AM
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Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

Mouse-MIlk (R) works Great also. Yes it's real a real bolt loosener etc., Avery Aircraft Supply At Hicks Field (Saginaw, TX) has it in their catalog. Should be in Stock. Marc, Anphigr66n.

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The best stuff I have used is aero kroil www.kanolabs.com it is amazing stuff.

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To: jeffreyd_7@hotmail.comSubject: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-19939] Seized up Brake Wheel CylindersDate: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:31:25 -0400From:



Anyone know of a good method to get seized up brake wheel cylinders apart? These have been sitting for 25 or 30 years(or more)!!! I think I need a good solution to soak them in for a few days, but have yet to find anything that works. Pushing the rears out by force probably won't be too hard, but the fronts can't be forced out.Thanks,Ted


        
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AFTER SOAKING IN KROIL, I PET IN A GREASE FITTINT IN THE BLEED HOLE, THEN PUMPED GREASE IN, IT PUSHED OUT THE FROZEN PISTONS, OLD MECHANIC TOLD ME HOW, GOOD LUCK.
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Re: Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

Thanks for the help. I finally got the last of mine apart yesterday. For everybody's information White Post said they charge $120 apiece to sleeve and rebuild wheel cylinders.
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Re: Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

Get a small hone---maybe ten bucks

The rear rubber cups can be had locally, fronts available from Gord

Clean up the aluminum pistons with scotch brite pads and bead blast the outside end, paint the outside end with good two part epoxy paint or silver lacquer---they don't have to be perfect, the rubber cups do the sealing.

Clean and bead blast cylinders then paint with silver lacquer in spray can--they will look and stay new

Use synthenic grease, as in disc brake grease under rubber caps---outside of pistons

did mine six years ago and no problems yet

Be sure when you put back together that the rear shoes go back the way they came off---one is has a shorter lining than the other and I think it goes on the back off the drum, but not sure



or spend $720 to re-sleeve


        
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Re: Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

The "short" shoe should be placed at the front of the assembly.

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Re: Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

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or spend $720 to re-sleeve
Lots of Amphi owners, including myself, have had them resleeved and rebuilt by the following shop. They will resleeve them in stainless and return them ready to go with proper rubber seals and new bleeders. About 3-4 years ago
it cost me $100 for both rear cylinders. Turn-around time was also very quick.

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Re: Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

My experience is that White Post does an amazing job, but charges a huge
premium in my opinion. There are other shops that will resleeve for much cheaper.
Although my experience has also been that a proper simple rehone and new
internal parts and seals will last many, many years without trouble. I have never
had the two year re-rust problem that others have written about.
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Re: Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

A few years back, a reported problem with White Post was that they were not using the proper rubber boots which are kind of unique to the Amphicar. This may have changed and i have no personal experience with them. The guy I used did a great job.


        
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Re: Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

From the old "part substitution" archives: Standard US rebuild kit boots fit
front and rear: Raybestos WK396 for the fronts, Raybestos WK1147 for the
rears.

If the cylinder pistons are modified by parting them just where the large
diameter ends (leaving only a piston w/o the stem & seal attachment groove)
these kits will also rebuild the cylinder, using standard cups and springs.
Of course you need an extra kit for each side in the front to replace the
springs, the first time, at least.

I've used these since with silicone fluid since 1995, although I do usually
inspect and hone (as req'd) every couple of years. Since the rebuild kits
are less than $6.00 it is not an expensive task.

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A few years back, a reported problem with White Post was that they were not
using the proper rubber boots which are kind of unique to the Amphicar. This
may have changed and i have no personal experience with them. The guy I used
did a great job.


        
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Re: Seized up Brake Wheel Cylinders

I use B&E for all my fire truck and antique car cylinders. They do nice work. Don't have them sleeved with brass somewhere else, insist on stainless.
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or spend $720 to re-sleeve

Lots of Amphi owners, including myself, have had them resleeved and rebuilt by the following shop. They will resleeve them in stainless and return them ready to go with proper rubber seals and new bleeders. About 3-4 years ago
it cost me $100 for both rear cylinders. Turn-around time was also very quick.

Brake & Equipment
445 NE Harrison St
Minneapolis, MN 55413
612-378-3141


        
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